A place where Colorado Rockies baseball card collectors (all 3 of us) can waste some time reading about our favorite sport. The Rockies and their cards will be the primary focus, but I like to go off on tangents as well so anything and everything baseball related may be covered here.

Monday, May 3, 2021

New Idea: Chain Mail - Feedback needed



Hey guys.  I missed my regular Sunday appointment here due to basic sluggishness.  But while I didn't really have the energy to type out a post, my brain was still working on an idea that I figured I would try to get feedback on.  This idea actually goes back a long time to a swap between myself and Tom from the recently retired (hopefully not permanently) blog The Angels in Order.  He sent me a 1000 count long box full of glorious randomness that I fully enjoyed sifting through.  It was one of the better trades I have had and to be honest I don't even remember all the cards I ended up keeping.  But I do remember the enjoyment of going through random cards.  Which brings me to my idea.

For some reason I was sitting in my recliner and remembered being 16 years old and falling for an old school snail mail chain letter scam.  For those of you that have no idea what that is, it was basically a pyramid scheme where you sent $1 to six names on a list and then sent 200 copies of the chain letter to new people with your name added to the bottom of the list with the #1 name removed and everyone else bumped up.  At the time, I thought it was a can't miss way of making money.  Oh how sad I was.  In reality, the only people that made any money was the company that I bought the 200 names and addresses from for like $50 and the Post Office.  I mailed all 200 letters including the stamps which set me back another $25 or so.  In short, I never received even a single dollar bill in the mail.  I don't regret doing it.  In all it was about a $100 investment that taught me a lot about swindles and legal con men.  That lesson was worth $100.  


The reason I told those two stories was that they inspired me to a trade idea.  I call it Chain Mail.  The idea is to get a list of six willing participants along with one flat rate box and fill it with cards that don't fit into my collection.  Then I would send however many cards I can safely fit into that box (preferably in smaller boxes to prevent damage) to the first name on the list.  That person would look through the cards, hopefully have a lot of fun, and take whatever he or she wants.  Then that person would replace all the cards they took with cards from their own trade box and ship to the #2 name on the list.  Then that person would repeat the process.  Then the 3rd person, then 4th, all the way to the last person on the list.  The last person on the list would also take what they wanted and refill the box from their trade stuff and ship it back to the original mailer.  My thought is that six people (counting the original mailer) would be the perfect number because it would probably take about six weeks from start to finish. From there I now have questions.

Do you guys like this idea?  Do you think it would actually work?  Do you think it would be a fun experiment?  Is six the best number in your opinion?  Would you want to participate?  How much money would it take for you go out in public wearing the question mark suit and bow tie combo?  

I realize it would take a lot of trust in the rest of the people on the list, especially for the original mailer.  This is why I would suggest not sending anything other than cards you wouldn't really miss. But I have faith that the blogging community is still trustworthy enough to pull something like this off.  You might get some cards for your collection.  You might get ideas and starter stacks for new sets to tackle.  You might get rid of some cards that are cool, but you don't have a trade partner for.  I shouldn't have said that because I now feel the original mailer will end up with about 1000 Miami Marlins cards.  But hey it could still be fun.

Let me know your thoughts because I think could be a lot of fun.

Thanx for reading.

Saturday, May 1, 2021

Rating the Rookie Cups 2.0 - 1991

Good evening all.  Once again I am just minutes into Saturday with my Rating the Rookie Cups post.  This week the problem was viral.  Not the physical virus, but the computer kind.  It wasn't a serious problem, but it cost me a few hours today and gave me a headache and basically made me not want to look at my computer a lot.  I took a power nap and I am rocking once again.  Yes, I did just say that I was rocking.  I'm old.

Helping to prove that I am old, this week I am showcasing a team that was rookie during my freshman year in high school 30 years ago, the 1990 Topps Rookie All Star Team.  Since I have rebooted this series, this is the first team I reviewed in the original go around.  It was fun looking back at my work from almost a decade ago, but it also showed how much I was really just guessing back then.  

The team features one of the instances of a rookie getting a cup card and being traded in the same season.  Felix Jose was traded from Oakland to St. Louis in exchange for longtime Cardinals hero Willie McGee.  It's not a common occurrence, but did happen as recently as 2020 with Nick Anderson who split the season between the Marlins and Rays.

As far as the set goes, Night Owl (in his civilian identity of Gregory Gay) wrote a piece for Beckett recently about this set that I can't even hope to top.  Just a fantastic write up on the set.  Although I gotta say that the commenters on the article really leave a lot to be desired.  I can honestly say that Topps was not on my radar in 1991.  I was a Score fan and spent the last real year of my teenage collecting almost buying Score.  I still love 1991 Score, but I do wish I had given Topps a little more love too.

Let's take a look at the 1990 Topps Rookie All Star Team.

Sandy Alomar - C - Indians- Season Rank (9 of 61) - Career Rank (16 of 61)

Hal Morris - 1B - Reds - Season Rank (25 of 61) - Career Rank (25 of 61)

Delino DeShields - 2B - Expos - Season Rank (16 of 61) - Career Rank (14 of 61)

Robin Ventura - 3B - White Sox - Season Rank (38 of 61) - Career Rank (10 of 61)
Jeff Huson - SS - Rangers - Season Rank (42 of 61) - Career Rank (46 of 60)

Felix Jose - OF - Cardinals - Season Rank (150 of 184) - Career Rank (120 of 184)

Dave Justice - OF - Braves - Season Rank (38 of 184) - Career Rank (38 of 184)

Larry Walker - OF - Expos - Season Rank (99 of 184) - Career Rank (2 of 184)

Kevin Appier - RHP - Royals - Season Rank (24 of 50) - Career Rank (10 of 50)

Scott Radinsky - LHP (RP) - White Sox - Season Rank (33 of 34) - Career Rank (17 of 34)


Here are the players I feel should have made the team.  This is based solely on rookie years stats and is a straight up "battle of the stats" with my opinion not factoring into the decision.  I give a chance to all rookies from that season that either played in 100 games, started 15 games, or had at least 10 saves.  If there happen to be less than 2 rookies that meet those qualifications at a position, then I will just compare the top two that don't meet parameters.  In this case, and all cases before 2011, I am retroactively adding a relief pitcher spot to the team which as I mentioned above means moving Scott Radinsky to the reliever category and adding a LH starter to the team. 

Catcher - Todd Zeile - Cardinals

There were three candidates for catcher in 1990 and they were all fairly strong.  The three were AL ROY Sandy Alomar of the Indians, Todd Zeile of the Cardinals, and Greg Olson of the Braves.  It ended up being a dead heat between future Rockies teammates Alomar and Zeile through my first tiebreaker, so I had to go with the final tiebreaker of who scored better against the third guy and Zeile ended up winning.  Although the case could easily be made for standing pat with Alomar, I am sticking with my formula and going with Zeile.

First Base - Carlos Quintana - Red Sox

First base was arguably the deepest position in 1990.  There were 4 qualifiers along with 2 "buzz worthy" rookies that fell short of the 100 game level that I included anyway.  They included Hal Morris of the Reds, Carlos Quintana of the Red Sox, Phil Stephenson of the Padres.  John Olerud of the Blue Jays was mostly a DH, but he is included here since I don't have a DH spot and he played some 1B.  The other two notables were future HOFer Frank Thomas of the White Sox and one year wonder Kevin Maas of the Yankees.  A lot of close battles, but all were defeated by Quintana who really just played the most games.

Second Base - Delino DeShields - Expos

If first base was the deepest, second base was by far the shallowest.  There were only two challengers at second base, Delino DeShields of the Expos and Mark Lemke of the Braves.  Lemke would become somewhat of a folk hero in Atlanta, but his rookie year was noticeably worse than DeShields who held his spot.

Third Base - Robin Ventura - White Sox

There were four candidates for the third base position, Robin Ventura of the White Sox, Jim Leyritz of the Yankees, Carlos Baerga of the Indians, and Travis Fryman of the Tigers.  Ventura did not have a great rookie year, but he was the only one that played a full season and won the spot relatively easily.

Shortstop - Eric Yelding - Astros

Shortstop was another position that was a bit shy on challengers.  There were two solid contenders in Eric Yelding of the Astros and Jeff Huson of the Rangers and I picked up a third in Edgar Diaz of the Brewers when I lowered the bar to 81 games.  In the end, the speedy Yelding took the spot over the defensively minded Huson.

Outfield - Dave Justice - Braves, Larry Walker - Expos, Felix Jose - Cardinals

The outfield in 1990 was not a particularly deep class either.  There were only 5 players over the 100 game limit, so I lowered the bar to 81 to pick up a full complement of 9.  Justice and Walker were clearly the top two guys.  Among those considered for the third spot were Eric Anthony of the Astros, Darryl Hamilton of the Brewers, Marquis Grissom of the Expos, and Glenallen Hill of the Blue Jays.  It came down to a tight three way battle between Felix Jose of the Cardinals, Greg Vaughn of the Brewers, and Jack Daugherty of the Rangers with Jose holding his spot.

RH Starter - Kevin Appier - Royals

As usual, there were a lot of contenders for the right handed starter spot.  1990 was especially strong with 4 rookies with double digits in victories.  Kevin Appier held off strong challenges from Kevin Tapani of the Twins, John Burkett of the Giants, Ben McDonald of the Orioles, and Mike Harkey of the Cubs.

LH Starter - Randy Tomlin - Pirates

There were very few left handed starters in 1990.  There were only 2 that met the 15 start requirement, so I had to lower the bar to 11 starts to pick up enough competition.  Among those considered were Chris Nabholz of the Expos, Steve Avery of the Braves, and Tigers teammates Steve Searcy and Brian DuBois.  It came down to the only full year starter in Pat Combs of the Phillies and a late season call up in Randy Tomlin of the Pirates.  In this case, the half season proved to be better than the full.

Relief Pitcher - Steve Frey - Expos

There were a handful of candidates for the relief pitcher spot including Topps's LHP choice Scott Radinsky of the White Sox.  I lowered the bar to 7 saves and got a tightly packed group of relievers including Jeff Gray of the Red Sox, Kent Mercker of the Braves, Stan Belinda of the Pirates, and the Expos trio of Steve Frey, Bill Sampen, and Scott Ruskin.  It was a very close battle with Frey winning over close runner up Belinda.


100% - Perfect, 80-90% - Great, 60-70% - Good, 40-50% - Poor, < 40% - Utter Failure


Topps did okay here.  They only got 6/10 according to my system, but catcher could have easily gone either way, so I am not really counting that against them.  First base was a case of a very high batting average winning out.  Shortstop was possibly a case of them considering Eric Yelding an outfielder instead of a shortstop since he played both positions.  But it was still a bad call.  The one choice they made that has absolutely no defense is Scott Radinsky.  I was never been a big fan of choosing relievers over starters unless the reliever was particularly great.  That was not Radinsky in 1990.  Just a bad call.  But I don't really have a leg to stand on, because I only got 7/10 correct on my original picks before I started using my stat system.  Proving it really isn't easy to make these picks, even years after the fact.

Final Thoughts on the Team

Strongest Team Members (rookie) - Sandy Alomar, Dave Justice, Delino DeShields
Strongest Team Members (career) - Larry Walker, Robin Ventura, Kevin Appier
Weakest Team Members (rookie) - Felix Jose, Scott Radinsky, Jeff Huson
Weakest Team Members (career) - Jeff Huson, Felix Jose, Scott Radinsky
Rockies on the team (Present and future) - 2 (Alomar, Walker) (Although Huson is the color guy on Rockies games now)
Best Card (IMHO) - Robin Ventura (Alomar and Appier are both really good, but I gotta go with the great throwback jersey here)
Worst Card (IMHO) - Hal Morris (not a bad shot, but zoomed in way too much)

This team is definitely solid with Larry Walker taking the #2 outfield spot on the all time career Rookie Cup team.  Walker is the only Hall of Famer, but there were several other very good underrated careers in Justice, Appier, Alomar, DeShields, and Ventura.  For career, I would probably this team right about the middle of the pack.  For rookie season, I might put it just a bit below average.  There were no really bad rookie years, but there were also no really good ones either.  Just a fairly average set of rookies that produced a few really great careers.


The 2013 team pictured on 2014 Topps cards.

Thanx for reading.

Sunday, April 25, 2021

Sunday PWE Trade Bait #11

Hey guys.  Here we go with another round of Sunday PWE Trade Bait.  It's been a sluggish month or so for me.  The new pups have just totally wore me out, although I did successfully rehome the four I was planning on in just three days with very little effort.  I am happy about that and I hope all of them make people happy for the next decade plus.  Now that the stress of finding homes is over, I now have two new dogs to go along with my two older dogs and it is still a challenge.  I love them all though.  But sleep is definitely at a premium for me right now.  

On tops of that, my Sportlots inventory has been moving quite steadily.  Not huge orders, but lots of orders.  That requires a fair amount of time stuffing envelopes as well.  Top that off with the normal day-to-day housework and the start of outdoor spring work, I really wish I could afford a maid.  Anyone know of someone that will clean my house in exchange for cards?  I guess I would, to be honest, but that kind of defeats the purpose.

Oh well, since I doubt I will be able to find a housekeeper for 7 serial numbered cards an hour, I'll just go ahead and try and continue trading them with you fine people. 

As always, I will trade for Rockies, Topps rookie cup cards, 86 Topps homages, the few remaining 2011 Topps Opening Day blues that I need for my master set, 2005 Topps Rookie Cup rainbows that I need, 2020 Donruss rainbows that I need, or the various insert sets I am currently putting together.  The links are working for 6 of those 7, and the other will be done shortly, but for now you can simply ask if I need it.

If you just simply don't have anything I need, don't worry about it.  We can still trade.  I will happily accept serial numbered cards from teams I am in short supply of at the moment.  All I ask is that you include an extra 1 or 2 just to take care of the stamp I will need to trade them later.  

 These are current teams I am comparatively low on trade stuff.

Detroit, Washington/Montreal, LA Angels, Texas, Houston

Previous Sunday PWE Trade Baits

Week #1    Week #2   Week #3   Week #4   Week #5   Week #6   Week #7   Week #8   Week #9   

Week #10   W


Claim away.


2006 Upper Deck/Future Stars Purple Johnny Damon /1799 - 2016 Topps/Update Gold Josh Donaldson /2016 - 2010 Bowman/Draft Prospects Blue Kolbrin Vitek /399

2007 Topps/Triple Threads Emerald Jay Gibbons /239 - 2017 Panini/Donruss Gold Press Proof Evan Longoria /99 - 2020 Panini/Donruss One Hundred Jose Ramirez /100

2018 Bowman/Prospects Chrome Canary Yellow Refractors Jake Kalish /75 - 2017 Panini/Chronicles Gold Bartolo Colon /999 - 2016 Finest Purple Refractors J.D. Martinez /250

2015 Bowman/Prospects Blue Tim Anderson /150 - 2015 Topps/Update Gold David DeJesus /2015 - 2016 Panini/Elite Extra Edition Andy Ibanez /999

2020 Panini/Donruss Stat Line Career Marco Gonzales /356 - 2018 Topps Independence Day Ken Giles /76 - 2015 Panini/Donruss Stat Line Career Rickey Henderson /400

2013 Topps/Heritage Chrome Refractor Adam LaRoche /564 - 2006 Upper Deck/Special FX Purple Chris Booker /150 - 2012 Topps/Update Gold Matt Diaz /2012

2020 Topps/Fire Orange Sandy Alcantara /299 - 2018 Bowman/Prospects Chrome Mega Box Purple Refractors Jordan Humphreys /250 - 2019 Topps Gold Anthony DeSclafani /2019

2018 Panini/Donruss Stat Line Career Josh Bell /455 - 2018 Finest Purple Refractors Tommy Pham /250 - 2015 Bowman Silver Jonathan Lucroy /499

2020 Bowman/Platinum Precious Elements Purple Miguel Amaya /250 - 2017 Bowman Purple Buster Posey /250 - 2016 Panini/Elite Extra Edition Eric Lauer /999

2020 Panini/Donruss Stat Line Milestone Robbie Ray /650 - 2017 Topps Gold Yasiel Puig /2017 - 2020 Panini/Donruss American Pride Silver Alika Williams (with Bobby Witt Jr.) /349

2009 Topps Gold Greg Reynolds /2009 - 2009 Topps/Triple Threads Todd Helton /1350 - 2014 Bowman/Chrome Prospects Chrome Blue Refractors Jordan Patterson /250


Cards with new homes.


As always, place a claim on any card that you'd like in the comments section or you can email me directly at hiflew AT yahoo DOT com and we can talk trade.


Thanx for reading.


Saturday, April 24, 2021

Rating the Rookie Cups 2.0 - 1972

Greetings all.  Got a late start today, so I am posting a little later than I intended.  It is technically Saturday now, but I'll pretend I am in the Central time zone and still count it as Friday though.  I hate to ruin a nice streak by just a few minutes.  

This week's team is the most recent team that I have completed, 1972 Topps.  As most of you know, 1972 Topps is well known for the rarity of the high numbers.  There are no really big names in this set, but 2 of the players are in the rare final series.  I was lucky enough to track down a cheap Doug Griffin in good condition several years ago, but the Willie Montanez eluded me for a decade.  I finally just broke down bought one for around $5 on eBay, but the condition is horrible.  So if any of you happen to have an extra one in decent condition, let me know.
The most obvious thing to talk about is that this is the 50th anniversary of this team and thus is the current year's Heritage product. 
As far as the team goes, there is really nothing about it that really stands out.  I usually have some type of trivia for every team, sometimes more than one piece of trivia, but I honestly have nothing here.  I guess the only thing I really have is that I was born exactly two days before Chris Chambliss's dramatic playoff home run for the Yankees in 1976.  

As far as the set goes, I know some people absolutely love this set, but it's not one of my favorites.  The marquee letters are fun and the colors are also fun in most cases, but I don't like the lack of a position indicator on the front.  I also don't think the plain nameplate really fits with the psychedelic rest of the design.  
The biggest flaw in my opinion is just the small percentage of the card devoted to the photo.  Let me state up front that I love borders and don't really like full bleed photography, but it is too extreme in this instance.  You have the regular border and then the larger colored inner border and the photo is on barely 50% of the card.  Just not a big fan.  

Let's take a look at the 1971 Topps Rookie All Star Team.

Earl Williams - C - Braves - Season Rank (12 of 61) - Career Rank (26 of 61)

Chris Chambliss - 1B - Indians - Season Rank (30 of 61) - Career Rank (16 of 61)

Doug Griffin - 2B - Red Sox - Season Rank (51 of 61) - Career Rank (55 of 61)

Steve Braun - 3B - Twins - Season Rank (47 of 61) - Career Rank (25 of 61)
Chris Speier - SS - Giants - Season Rank (27 of 61) - Career Rank (15 of 60)

Bill Buckner - OF - Dodgers - Season Rank (175 of 184) - Career Rank (37 of 184)

Angel Mangual - OF - Athletics - Season Rank (179 of 184) - Career Rank (181 of 184)

Willie Montanez - OF - Phillies - Season Rank (26 of 184) - Career Rank (83 of 184)


Bill Parsons - RHP - Brewers - Season Rank (36 of 50) - Career Rank (46 of 50)

Ross Grimsley - LHP - Reds - Season Rank (42 of 49) - Career Rank (17 of 49)




Here are the players I feel should have made the team.  This is based solely on rookie years stats and is a straight up "battle of the stats" with my opinion not factoring into the decision.  I give a chance to all rookies from that season that either played in 100 games or started 15 games.  With relievers the requirements are 10 saves and/or 65 games pitched in relief.  If there happen to be less than 2 rookies that meet those qualifications at a position, then I will just compare the top two that don't meet parameters.  In this case, and all cases before 2011, I am retroactively adding a relief pitcher spot to the team.

Catcher - Earl Williams - Braves

For the first time since I have started doing this, we have a walk.  NL ROY Earl Williams was the only rookie catcher anywhere close to qualifying. 

First Base - Chris Chambliss - Indians

I didn't have to wait long to find the second rookie walk through.  AL ROY Chris Chambliss was the only rookie first baseman anywhere close to qualifying.  At least it was the two Rookies of the Year that probably would have won regardless.  

Second Base - Doug Griffin - Red Sox

Second base competition was fairly weak in 1971, but at least there was some.  I still had to lower the bar to 97 games to pick up two challengers for Doug Griffin of the Red Sox.  They were Ron Theobald of the Brewers and Tim Foli of the Mets.  It required two tie breakers, but Griffin was able to hold his spot over a very competitive one year wonder in Theobald.

Third Base - Steve Braun - Twins

Like most positions in 1971, third base also suffered from a lack of rookie competition.  I lowered the bar to 89 games to pick up three players.  They were Steve Braun of the Twins, Bobby Valentine of the Dodgers, and Darrell Evans of the Braves.  Braun was not dominant by any means, but he was able to hold the spot over the longtime slugger Evans and the future manager Valentine.

Shortstop - Chris Speier - Giants

Shortstop was the one position that had plenty of contenders, at least in terms of games played.  There were 5 rookie shortstops with at least 127 games played in 1971.  They were Chris Speier of the Giants, Roger Metzger of the Astros, Toby Harrah of the Senators, Enzo Hernandez of the Padres, and Marty Perez of the Braves.  Despite the increased competition, Speier easily held his spot.

Outfield - Willie Montanez - Phillies, George Foster - Giants / Reds, Gene Clines - Pirates

The outfield was also a bit shy on rookie contenders.  There were only 5 players that met the 100 games played requirement, so I lowered the bar to 90 games and picked up 3 more.  Those not in contention included Roger Freed of the Phillies, Brock Davis of the Cubs, and Jimmy Rosario of the Giants.  Willie Montanez was clearly the #1 rookie outfielder, so that left the final two spots among Topps's choices Bill Buckner of the Dodgers and Angel Mangual of the A's along with Gene Clines of the Pirates and George Foster who split the year between the Giants and Reds.  In this case, Topps went 0-2 because Foster and Clines were pretty clearly superior.

RH Starter - Ken Forsch - Astros

As expected with the early 70s starters, there were a lot of young horses here.  Lots of innings among our 9 RH starters.  Some of the candidates included Steve Stone of the Giants, Jim Slaton of the Brewers, Steve Arlin of the Padres, and Reggie Cleveland of the Indians.  It came down to a two man race between Ken Forsch of the Astros and Bill Parsons of the Brewers with Forsch winning a somewhat tight battle. 

LH Starter - Paul Splittorff - Royals

Of the 10 or so sets I have reviewed thus far, this was the smallest number of LH starters I have had yet.  There were only 3 starters that qualified and I even lowered the bar to 10 with no success.  But there is only 1 spot, so 3 was fine.  The 3 candidates were Ross Grimsley of the Reds, Ken Reynolds of the Phillies, and Paul Splittorff of the Royals.  Splittorff was clearly the best starter and should have been the pick.
Relief Pitcher - Steve Mingori - Indians

Rookie relievers in 1971 were also in short supply.  I had to lower the bar to 50 games in order to collect 5 contenders for the RP spot on the team.  The lesser candidates were Jim York of the Royals, Denny Riddleberger of the Senators, and Al Severinsen of the Padres.  The spot came down to a really tight race between middle reliever Steve Mingori of the Indians and closer Lloyd Allen of the Angels with Mingori just barely edging out the victory.


100% - Perfect, 80-90% - Great, 60-70% - Good, 40-50% - Poor, < 40% - Utter Failure


Topps did very well with the infield, although the lack of contenders kind of diminishes that accomplishment.  They missed on both pitchers, but neither was particularly egregious, particularly since their choices had the most wins and that category was far more important in 1971.  The biggest mistake they made though was the choice of Angel Mangual over George Foster.  I am dumbfounded by that choice.  And I am even more dumbfounded that Mangual actually got 4 first place ROY votes.  I saw absolutely nothing impressive in his stats, but maybe one of you guys a little older than me can explain why Mangual's 1971 season was special.  Overall, I would not give Topps a lot of credit here even though they fell into the "Good" category. 

Final Thoughts on the Team

Strongest Team Members (rookie) - Willie Montanez, Earl Williams, Chris Speier
Strongest Team Members (career) - Bill Buckner, Chris Speier, Chris Chambliss
Weakest Team Members (rookie) - Angel Mangual, Bill Buckner, Doug Griffin
Weakest Team Members (career) - Angel Mangual, Doug Griffin, Bill Parsons
Rockies on the team (Present and future) - 0
Best Card (IMHO) - Bill Buckner (I always get a chuckle out of the bat getting ready to destroy the trophy.)
Worst Card (IMHO) - Chris Chambliss (Not horrible, but it is poorly framed.)

This was a pretty weak Rookie All Star Team, but in fairness it was a fairly weak rookie class in 1971 overall.  The season team is one of the weakest I have run across yet.  It will probably end up as one the bottom 10 teams when all is said and done.  The career team does look better though.  Bill Buckner was right on the cusp of a HOF career and still may make it one day through the Vet's Committee.  Chris Speier and Chris Chambliss also had very good careers, but the remainder of the team was not particularly strong.  For career, I would put the team higher, but not much higher, maybe bottom 20.  Definitely a below average team overall.


The 1990 team pictured on 1991 Topps cards.

Thanx for reading.